I was lucky enough to have put down a holding deposit and secure a 16g black iphone on launch date albeit i was in line from 5am. The store i lined up at was in the northern suburbs of Melbourne and they only had 20 iphones for launch day, of which only 3 were 16gb black! (i was 2nd in line) there would have been at least 50 people in the line by 7am! Of all the telcos Optus by far dealt with the launch the best... Optus' plans are not that bad. Telstra's are absolutely pathetic, but its Telstra and we kind of knew that they would rip customers off.

Posted by
Art,
Jul 15, 2008 2:51 PM
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I too am thoroughly disappointed. If you buy any other product from Apple directly you get a shipping estimate. Surely the telcos, the leaders in communication services, would be able to find out when these products are getting shipped. Its all advertising.
Horrendous service by all 3. Sincerely disappointed. Its now been 5 days and still, not one person in the telco industry can tell me when new stock will arrive.

Posted by
danny j,
Jul 15, 2008 3:06 PM
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Im still waiting for my white 16gb phone.
The included data on 3G plans are totally pathetic. It seems totally unreasonable. The companies say they have to cover costs. But what costs are there associated with data? Either it is the cost of data to the telco or it is the cost of infrustructure required to provide data to the consumer.
Now, since you can get good data plans on ADSL2+ with many providers it seems that backend data costs to aren't that expensive. So this doesn't seem to account for the added price...
So what about infrustructure? Isn't this in place for voice calls? Surely there is very little extra equipment needed for data provision.
It just doesnt seem reasonable for telcos to charge an exhorbitant amount for data services. They are clearly just profiteering... glad I have shares in telstra :D

Posted by
Philosophy,
Jul 15, 2008 3:34 PM
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I couldn't agree more. The state of iPhone affairs is absolutley horrendous. I can only hope that 3 are able to get the iPhone soon and blow the other telcos away with their substantially cheaper data plans.

Posted by
stu,
Jul 15, 2008 3:46 PM
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A 1MB smh.com.au download is such a failure. I checked - it's 1.6MB on an unprimed cache, with 146 HTTP requests. Pathetic.
news.google.com.au is 1/8th the size. Use that instead.

Posted by
Joel,
Jul 15, 2008 4:31 PM
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Agreed! I've been waiting for the iPhone since it was bought out in America!!
I had to wait till the day of release before i could compare the full Vodaphone plans with the optus plans. Now by the time Vodaphone had put up the full rates on their website. Every phone in Australia was sold out. I never stood a chance.
Now i have to call these moron phone salesmen every day until they finally get a shipment. They sound tired of hearing the question, "Do you guys have an iPhones?" yet they are not even providing a system where they can call you when they get in. MADNESS!

Posted by
Reece Turbin,
Jul 15, 2008 4:49 PM
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Agreed! I've been waiting for the iPhone since it was bought out in America!!
I had to wait till the day of release before i could compare the full Vodaphone plans with the optus plans. Now by the time Vodaphone had put up the full rates on their website. Every phone in Australia was sold out. I never stood a chance.
Now i have to call these moron phone salesmen every day until they finally get a shipment. They sound tired of hearing the question, "Do you guys have an iPhones?" yet they are not even providing a system where they can call you when they get in. MADNESS!

Posted by
Reece Turbin,
Jul 15, 2008 4:49 PM
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Agreed! I've been waiting for the iPhone since it was bought out in America!!
I had to wait till the day of release before i could compare the full Vodaphone plans with the optus plans. Now by the time Vodaphone had put up the full rates on their website. Every phone in Australia was sold out. I never stood a chance.
Now i have to call these moron phone salesmen every day until they finally get a shipment. They sound tired of hearing the question, "Do you guys have an iPhones?" yet they are not even providing a system where they can call you when they get in. MADNESS!

Posted by
Reece Turbin,
Jul 15, 2008 4:49 PM
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I got my iPhone 3g and I love it. I bought it outright from optus then unlocked to work on virgin mobile ($35 a month for $50 of calls and 1GB of data) :) I suggest you all do the same! PS: I typed this on my iPhone :)

Posted by
Sean,
Jul 15, 2008 4:55 PM
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I have an optus mobile account and recently went overseas - the roaming data charges worked out at at $30000 per gigabyte!!

Posted by
Craig,
Jul 15, 2008 4:55 PM
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I don't think you can complain about the cost of data plans as an issue related to the iPhone. Data plans in general are daylight robbery whether it's an iPhone a Nokia or a Windows Mobile device.

Posted by
Richard,
Jul 15, 2008 4:58 PM
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To be honest, I knew this would happen that's why I have decided not to purchase an iPhone way before it was released here.
The first thing they need to do is to get rid of that annoying limit on downloads (can't even have unlimited download on household internet, you expect it would be available for iPhone? *What a joke). Until then, having an iPhone is just a complete waste of time.
Yes, it's pretty. It lets you control the interface at your finger tips (literately). But, people keep forgetting that the telecommunication infrastructure here just isn't ready for such an advanced technology. I'm not talking about using the phone as a phone - using iPhone as an "mini computer" is the problem. The download limit and speed of download are the two major issues here in Australia.
Good luck to those who own one.

Posted by
Leanne,
Jul 15, 2008 5:00 PM
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You're wrong about 3 offering 1Gb for only $15. Yes they do, but only when using a USB Key or USB Modem to plug into a laptop or desktop - you cannot use the 1Gb from your mobile handset i.e. use your phone as a modem. If you want to do this you need to sign up to a pack or X-series. 1Gb costs $30 per month. Or you can get 200Mb for $12 a month on an Explorer pack.

Posted by
Barry,
Jul 15, 2008 5:03 PM
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The bad joke is the phone itself... Not the networks.

Posted by
Matt,
Jul 15, 2008 6:01 PM
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Where does it say optus calls are charged per minute? I also agree that this all the fus over this phone is just advertising hype. Also what about the telstra data rates? its nothing but disgusting...

Posted by
Devon Smashh,
Jul 15, 2008 7:40 PM
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I like the iphone, I want an iphone, but I know that the initial hype will mean that telcos will be under no pressure to offer customers anything special. The fans will queue for the iphone no matter what the plans are. it's what fans do. it happens whenever a new anything is released. Like queuing up for a PS3 when it was launched but there were no games available for it (bar a handful).
if you want value for money, then wait a couple of months.

Posted by
zonkbaby,
Jul 16, 2008 8:39 AM
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You guys don't think Apple is managing the supply chain here? That they have intentionally limited stocks for the column inches? All news is good news, right? Not any more! If demand is as strong as everyone suggests, and so many people missed out on picking up the device, either Apple has plenty of stock warehoused ready to hit the road over the next few weeks, or we'll all be waiting a while longer as their Chinese factories get to manufacturing more units.
As an aside, I would have purchased 2 units on launch day but stayed away. Kinda glad I did as the reviews are giving me reason for pause. If only the HTC Touch Pro had a bigger screen....

Posted by
robc,
Jul 16, 2008 9:02 AM
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You guys don't think Apple is managing the supply chain here? That they have intentionally limited stocks for the column inches? All news is good news, right? Not any more! If demand is as strong as everyone suggests, and so many people missed out on picking up the device, either Apple has plenty of stock warehoused ready to hit the road over the next few weeks, or we'll all be waiting a while longer as their Chinese factories get to manufacturing more units.
As an aside, I would have purchased 2 units on launch day but stayed away. Kinda glad I did as the reviews are giving me reason for pause. If only the HTC Touch Pro had a bigger screen....

Posted by
robc,
Jul 16, 2008 9:02 AM
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Your dissappointed now..!!! Wait to till you see the LACK of basic features the IPhone has to offer.

Posted by
Jendy,
Jul 16, 2008 9:06 AM
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All this press - GOOG or BAD - just adds to teh hype.
Apple must be loving it...

Posted by
Chris,
Jul 16, 2008 9:32 AM
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Part of the problem is that the Telcos are still convinced that smartphones only have business applications. Kind of like how you could (until the most recent budget) novate a notebook lease because no-one could possibly want one for anything other than work.
In addition, Telstra seems to see this Data thing as a passing fad, no matter how they try to convince us otherwise.

Posted by
Anome,
Jul 16, 2008 9:36 AM
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A couple of innacurracies in the plan stuff:
- Vodafone clearly states in the plan details that they are 24-month contracts. Look on the site by clicking the buy now, not their early press release.
- Although the Voda $49 cap has no data, all voda plans have caps that cover data (this is the hidden secret about the voda plans), so with your $310 credit you could use it for 310 5 minute blocks at $1 each, or about 25 hours of data usage. Other caps, such as $69 where you have 250M, at 15c/m excess, you can use up to around 2.2g if you don't make any calls etc.
Phone plans have never been easy to understand, so nothing has changed. I mean just the difference between regular plans and "caps" with huge "value" but equally huge call rates is confusing in itself.
I think Kathryn is just annoyed (understandably) that she didn't get a phone :)
There was always going to be a huge demand, and to be honest, it's just part of the marketing machine... generating exclusivity at the start.
You can't blame them for not releasing many prepaid phones. 90% of people planning to get prepaids from Optus were planning to unlock them immediately and switch over to Three. Now why would Optus sell their phones to those people when they could get people on contracts.. and the Optus contracts aren't a bad deal. Reasonable data for the money, option for only 12 month contract, and termination fees that result in you having outlaid only ~$990 for a phone outright..
In all, I think the iPhone has been an extremely poisitive thing for the industry. Although I can understand the frustration of those who were wooed by the marketing but still can't get their hands on one..
The carriers could still do a lot more to service us with more appropriate data plans for a device that is changing the way people use the internet.

Posted by
David,
Jul 16, 2008 12:05 PM
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Its a phone you IDIOTS!
Wait a couple of weeks and the telcos will be throwing the bloody things at you when you walk past.
Get a life. Talk to your family and friends face to face......and get those bloody headphones out of your ears!

Posted by
Pete,
Jul 16, 2008 12:12 PM
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Just so we are all aware (I am sure most are), it is official, Carriers think we are silly. Truth be known the data infrastructure exists and have for the most part been paid for over the years of data plans on mobiles. This is the carriers last little "cash cow". See Voice over IP has taken care of their landline rip offs and technology exists today to push voice calls over a data network as well an |